@rysiek ugh I want to avoid using Docker

@inmysocks @staticsafe Yeah it's Discourse

But there are a ton of other maintained BB software like MyBB, FluxBB, ABXD...

@Siphonay @inmysocks thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into those

this is basically the same stack as Mastodon so I'm not sure how Docker is easier

@staticsafe the containerization will continue until morale improves, Sadiq

@staticsafe

You can avoid the complexities of running a large Rails service by wrapping it all inside another large point of failure!

@staticsafe ever wonder what it would be like to hand complete control of server program execution to some random people anywhere in the world? This is what it looks like.

actually nah I don't want to run more Rails app, dealing with one is enough Rails for me especially if they don't want to support a non-Docker setup

I guess I have look into what other PHP based stuff is out there now

gonna play with some test installs of the following during the weekend

FluxBB
MyBB

@staticsafe check out https://flarum.org/ also. I think that's more of a standard stack.

@ignitionigel thanks for the suggestions!

@staticsafe no problem, it's eomthing I was looking at a year ago for a local club I was helping with, but am no longer on the committee and everyone wanted to use fackbook. Flarum looked interesting to me, and is probably a lot further along now.

now I need a new name and domain for this community 🤔

tfw you have an idea for a domain and the .com is avaliable

@staticsafe in this glorious era of .horse and .toilet and whatever the fuck, why would you settle for merely .com

@lycaon @staticsafe normal people camouflage

@typhlosion @lycaon @staticsafe comouflage. 🤔

so I bought a domain for my forum idea last night but idk if its the right one hmmm

some of these new TLDs are relatively expensive too...like .cafe and .club)

(before anyone recommends another registrar, I'm using Gandi because that's where all my domains are and they bill me in CAD, so that's the price list I'm looking at)

@staticsafe most of the cheaper options are usually just for one year and then they bill you full price once you've gotten attached to it anyway

@staticsafe that’s weird, I just picked up a .club donain for less than 1USD

y'all don't even know, running forums again is like reliving the good parts of my teenage years

I've been actively shedding domain names for years, this is my first domain buy since tenforward.social back in 2017, I don't buy these frivolously anymore

@staticsafe i still sorta do but that's only when it's heavily on sale, and then i don't renew it unless i'm actually using it (which is never)

@staticsafe seriously though, tenforward.social is a fantastic name.

@stuarttempleton yep, when I had the idea, I was like "wow that's perfect"

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@staticsafe
I saw something about Nimforum just recently, as an alternative for discourse. I thought it looked interesting.

https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum

@staticsafe
>PHP

oh no... :(

I'd rather run nodejs than php. Btw. there's nodeBB, it was pretty good last time I checked (which was 3 years a go).

@staticsafe ime installing and upgrading a discourse server is approximately an order of magnitude easier then maintaining a mastodon server, but I don't know how much of that can be attributed to docker vs just having more admin tooling

@staticsafe that's very true tho, discourse is relatively easy to set up with plenty of magic scripts, and then it updates impressively with one button though said magic

i'm not sure exactly how or if i really want to know but it's been okay to keep up :p

@CobaltVelvet hmm that actually might be worth a shot then

@staticsafe (but it's still quite heavy, it will eat its ~2-4GB of RAM for even a small instance)

@CobaltVelvet @staticsafe and it can't even parse PHPBB smh

@staticsafe well, we're running discourse in docker, but in our own set-up. Not using their docker config, because it sucks.

Discourse devs treat sysadmins like idiots. My answer is "I know how to set up postgres, thanks; let me run the software, stop making it more complicated than necessary by wrapping it in your preconceptions and assumptions".

@staticsafe Only Docker? Hard pass.

@Are0h yeppp, its in their docs - https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md

@staticsafe @Are0h Gods, that was one of the reasons I got pissed off with asciinema (among other fails), only for the lead maintainer to get shitty with me in my mentions.

@Jo @staticsafe @Are0h i host a minor discourse installation.

it hasn't gotten owned so far, and it pretty much works, but it's amusing that a thing built as a phpbb killer is so much more of a ridiculous inscrutable black box full of components i have no mental model of than something like phpbb could ever have been in its wildest dreams.

modern software development is hilarious.

@staticsafe Nope. That's a red flag.

I did run NodeBB for a few months and it was a pretty good experience. I really dug how easy it was to customize.

https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB